Burgers: In-N-Out 17 Jan 2022 4:52 PM (3 years ago)
Probably the number one question I got from my friends during and after the burger trip Andrew (24) and I took is "how does In-N-Out Burger compare?" (Interestingly, no one asked me how Shake Shack compares, despite the rivalry between the chains.) So, when I was visiting Michael (21) at college near Denver, we stopped at an In-N-Out in Lakewood, CO. We both ordered the Double-Double Animal Style burger of their "not so secret menu". This is a burger with two patties, two slices of American cheese, lettuce, tomato, "spread" (Thousand Island dressing), pickles, and grilled onions. The thing that makes an Animal Style burger special is that patties are grilled with yellow mustard, so you get a cooked mustard taste. In-N-Out also grills their buns so they're crispy inside.
My family has loved In-N-Out for a long time, but this was my first visit after diving so deeply into burgers. Fortunately, In-N-Out still holds up. The burger was pretty damn good. The grill mustard really adds a fantastic flavor and the grilled bun is great (similar to the Culver's Butterburger in the Midwest). The meat was OK-well seasoned; a little more salt would have helped, and the patties were a little dry. All-in-all, it was a very satisfying burger, especially for a larger chain restaurant. Unfortunately, the fries are meh at best. I ordered mine "well-done" (extra crispy), and Michael had his regular. Both were a little flabby and boring. Still I wish we had them in the Seattle area.
I'd put them at the top of the fast food burgers because of the grilled mustard, maybe tied or just ahead of Kewpee Hamburgers in Ohio. I still prefer the Double Tavern Burger at Loretta's Northwesterner, a pub in Seattle (Andrew, his girlfriend, and I just went back there again over Christmas break -- still delicious). I need to try Shake Shack again soon (fortunately, we do have them in Seattle.)
Burgertrippers: Retrospective 10 Sep 2021 8:56 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip.)
Well, we made it, and Andrew (24) is safely ensconced at the Culinary Institute of America now. Across our entire burger trip, we ate 24 different burgers including the two we had in Seattle as a baseline a little before our trip. (We also had four Philly cheesesteak sandwiches.)
Our three favorite burgers were:
- Jucy Lucy, Matt's Bar in Minneapolis, MN
- Bernice Original, Shady Glen Dairy Stores in Meridian, CT
- Double Tavern Burger, Loretta's Northwesterner in Seattle, WA
It's worth noting that these burgers are all pretty different, so they're a little hard to compare. They're just the burgers we wanted to order more of and kept talking about afterwards. I'd also call out the Bear Bite Burger at the Shoshone Lodge outside of Cody, WY and the plain burger at Louis’ Lunch as other burgers we kept talking about afterwards.
Our least favorite burger was the Galley Burger at Swensen's Drive-in in Columbus, OH. (The elk and bison burgers at Iron Horse Bar & Grill in Gardiner, MT were also nothing special, but those were in a different class and were not a destination burger for us.)
For the chain restaurants, we loved the cheeseburger at Kewpee Hamburgers in Lima, OH. We were split on White Castle (they weren't as good as I remembered, but Andrew was entranced by something about it) and Culver's (I loved them but Andrew was turned off by how much mustard his had.)
In truth, all of the burgers were acceptable or better; none were bad.
Across all these burgers, we realized a few things:
- A lot of burgers are really about the toppings, with the patty mostly providing texture and warmth. I think this is why you can have a decent burger experience with a veggie patty. Incrediburger in Spokane is a good example of this -- creative and tasty toppings and a good bun, but the meat didn't add much in terms of flavor. It was still a good burger.
- Our favorite burgers had the meat as the focal point -- beefy taste, at least half of the volume of the bite, well-seasoned. The classic burger at Louis' Lunch is the epitome of this fact -- great meat on a toasted bread with nothing else. Delicious, like eating a steak sandwich. We liked burgers with a good char on the outside, like a smashburger. In most cases, we think a double is the way to get the right meat/bun ratio. Medium rare, of course.
- We both liked cheese on our burgers, usually American. In most cases, the cheese becomes a sauce for the meat. This was particularly true when the cheese was in the meat, like the Jucy Lucy and Juicy Nookie burgers in Minneapolis. (Cheese inside the patty mixed with the juices to make a terrific sauce.) When it's not melted (like at Culver's) it wasn't nearly as good. However, on two burgers (Bernice Original at Shady Glen in Manchester, CT and the single burger at Ted's in Meridian, CT) the cheese was its own element. In each of these cases, the cheese was thick enough that it had a distinct flavor and texture that changed the burger (for the better). This was especially true with the Bernice Original where the cheese was cooked until it crisped up. Both ways are great.
- We were divided on toppings. We liked onions, either grilled or raw. We'd like to try a mix of both. We were both ok with lettuce. I liked tomato if it's a good tomato; Andrew thought it didn't add anything. I liked thin pickle chips on the burger to add some acid; Andrew liked his on the side to prevent the pickle from overpowering the flavor. Surprisingly, we were both ambivalent about bacon on the burger.
- One note, we realized that we didn't like toppings that were long and could be pulled out of the burger, like rings of onions or slices of bacon. It was no fun fighting the toppings, plus then you either got too much of something or not enough. We liked diced onions better, so every bite was consistent. The one exception was the piles of onions on the burger at Powers in Fort Wayne, IN. That was basically an onion burger -- half onion and half burger. Super tasty, just different.
- We were divided on condiments too. On the best burgers, we didn't need any condiments (e.g. Louis' Lunch). I like ketchup, mayo, and mustard. Andrew just wanted ketchup. Barbecue sauce was a nice addition if it added a little acid to cut the fat, but the ones that were too sweet overpowered the burger.
- We both agreed we liked the buttered and toasted buns of Culver's Butterburger -- great flavor and crunch. We both thought brioche buns were too soft and fragile for burgers; they just disappeared. We liked something with a little more substance to hold together as we ate the burger. Sourdough can help balance a strong burger, and ciabatta-style rolls held up well.
- There was some pairing to explore with drinks and burgers. We didn't come to consensus on when Coke, beer, or a shake was best or what kind of beer or shake matched what circumstance. We liked the balance from the acidity in Coke, the way alcohol in beer washed away the fat, and how a creamy shake complemented the richness of the burger. We didn't even delve into the wine side at all -- something for another time.
- We were pretty disappointed with the fries across the board. Most of them were the same frozen fries cooked in vegetable oil. (Still tasty, of course.) Incrediburger in Spokane was an exception with their beef fat fries. Loretta's in Seattle has good, handcut fries too. And, Matt’s Burger in Minneapolis must have sprinkled crack on their frozen fries; we ate every last fry out of a huge basket – just well executed frozen fries, I guess.
I want to try combining these lessons to make the Ultimate Burger. Stay tuned.
And, because several people have asked, I gained four pounds on the trip. I have mostly lost that since coming home
Here are a few other observations from the trip. Nearly every restaurant, hotel, and gas station we went to had signs saying they were hiring. As I noted, the best breakfast place we went to (Bearlodge Bakery in Sundance, WY) was serving their last breakfast before closing because the owner couldn't find enough help. It's one thing to read about the challenges businesses face hiring; it's another to really see it everywhere.
East of Seattle, there were very few people wearing masks, except where required like in US Federal buildings in National Parks or indoors in cities with mask mandates like Chicago. Masks picked up again in New York. No one said anything to us since we were wearing masks, but we stood out. I think the social pressure to be like people around you has a snowball effect -- either nearly everyone wears a mask or nearly no one does.
It's easy when you live in a biggish, coastal city like Seattle to dismiss the "flyover" states, maybe with exceptions for big cities like Chicago. However, I was really pleasantly surprised by how nice smaller cities like Spokane, WA and Sioux Falls, SD are. I'd love to spend more time in Philadelphia too (big city there, of course). I was also amazed how good the museums in Cody, WY and Dayton, OH were. I really want to go back and spend more time in those. And, I am impressed with how my hometowns of Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN have revitalized. I love spending time there. It was really great to remind myself how awesome the United States is and that each part has uniquely cool things to offer.
The List
Seattle, WA
Loretta's Northwesterner
- Double Tavern Burger
- Deluxe Burger
Spokane, WA
Incrediburger
- PB&J Burger
- Classic Burger
Gardiner, MT
Iron Horse Bar & Grill
- Elk Burger
- Bison Burger
Cody, WY
Shoshone Lodge
- Bear Bite Burger
Rapid City, SD
Sickies Garage Burgers & Brews
- Sickie's Burger
- Classic Cheeseburger with Kobe beef
Sioux Falls, SD
Culver's
- Butterburger
Minneapolis/St.Paul, MN
White Castle
- Cheeseburger
Casper & Runyon's Nook
- Juicy Nookie
- Triple B (Bourbon Bacon Burger)
Matt's Bar
- Jucy Lucy
Davenport, IA
Maid-Rite
- The Cheese-Rite
- The Original Maid-Rite
Chicago, IL
Au Cheval
- Single burger (plain)
- Single burger (w/ bacon and egg)
Fort Wayne, IN
Powers Hamburgers
- Doubles with cheese
Lima, OH
Kewpee Hamburgers
- Cheeseburger
Columbus, OH
Swensen's Drive-In
- Galley Burger
New Haven, CT
Louis' Lunch
- Hamburger (plain)
Meridian, CT
Ted's Restaurant
- Single cheeseburger with everything
Manchester, CT
Shady Glen Dairy Stores
- Bernice Original
Burgertrippers: Day 12 Last burgers and the end of the road 2 Sep 2021 5:47 AM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip.)
What a difference a day makes. After driving through the rain all day yesterday, Andrew (24) and I were happy to see blue sky today. We left Philadelphia, Pennsylvania early this morning for our last day of driving and last planned burgers. We hit nearly standstill traffic getting to the George Washington Bridge near New York City. Once we got clear, we headed to New Haven, Connecticut. We visited the beach to be by the Atlantic Ocean, mirroring our start where we put our hands in the Pacific Ocean (Puget Sound). Unfortunately the tide was out when we went to the Atlantic, so we couldn’t get past the mud flats to the water.
We had three burgers planned today, all big ones that we were excited about. The first was Louis’ Lunch in New Haven, in the shadow of Yale University. Louis’ has been in business since 1895 and is the birthplace of the hamburger sandwich. They ground the meat themselves fresh daily from five cuts of beef then broil them in a proprietary vertical cast iron cooker they invented. The burgers are then served on white toast. They only offer them plain or with Velveeta, grilled onions, and tomato. They make a big deal about not allowing ketchup. Since we were going to have so many burgers today in a short time span, we split one basic hamburger with no toppings – their original. With only meat and bread, the burger tasted almost like a good steak sandwich. The patty was medium-rare, leaving it quite juicy. It was pretty well seasoned, although I would have liked a little more salt. The toast was a little thin for the thick patty, but since it’s sourdough the toast stood up flavor-wise. I wish we had tried one with cheese, onions, and tomato, but this one was really good. It’s not hard to see why they’ve survived and thrived for so long.
Andrew outside the Louis’ Lunch building.
You can see the unique cast iron cookers here. The patties are attached to a vertical tray that is inserted into the cooker where it’s cooked with flame on both sides. The bread is toasted using the machine on the left.
Look how thick that patty is! It’s really a simple burger, but tasty. 
After Louis, we drove about 30 minutes to Ted’s Restaurant in Meridian, Connecticut. Ted’s is famous for their steamed burgers. They steam the meat instead of grilling it. They also steam the cheese. We ordered single cheeseburgers with everything (tomato, onion, lettuce, pickle chips, ketchup, mayo) plus their cheese fries. This was a unique, tasty burger. It was well-proportioned and well-balanced. The steamed Wisconsin cheddar plays a particularly big role in this burger. It adds salt and flavor, but it’s also thick enough to add texture and chew to the burger. The steamed meat tasted good and was more tender than most of the grilled patties. The cheese fries were a bit of a bust; the cheese had cooled into a solid sheet over the fries. We had to tear chunks of cheese off to eat with a fry (which was good). A very enjoyable burger, although I doubt we’ll be steaming burgers at home.
The last burger of our trip was another 30 minute drive away to Manchester, Connecticut at Shady Glen Dairy Stores. Their claim-to-fame is the Bernice Original, a burger with four slices of cheese overhanging the patty onto the grill. The cheese cooks until it’s mostly crisp. Aside from the visual interest, cooking the cheese like that also changes the flavor. When Andrew and took the first bite out of each of our shared burger, our eyes were wide. It was a really delicious bite, and each bite afterwards was equally good. The crisped cheese added a savory and unique flavor as well as some texture. The meat was well-seasoned and cooked well. Just delicious. The coleslaw, which came with the platter, was very good too, kind of KFC-like with a fine dice and a slightly sweet dressing. The fries were fine. Since Shady Glenn started as a dairy, we tried their milkshakes and were not disappointed. Super good. The only real problem was that this was our 3rd burger in 90 minutes, so we didn’t have room to eat more. Although they apparently make this cheese specially for the Bernice Original, I want to try cooking my cheese this at home too. This was probably our second favorite burger on the trip, after the Jucy Lucy at Matt’s Bar in Minneapolis. What a great way to end our burger tasting on this trip! We’ll summarize our burgers and lessons later.
After we staggered out of Shady Glen, we completed our drive and arrived at the Culinary Institute of America. More on that later. We have a day of getting his last few things and exploring the area, then I drop Andrew off tomorrow and head back to Seattle.
Burgertrippers: Day 11 Philly Cheesesteaks 1 Sep 2021 9:16 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip.)
Today was a tough drive. Andrew (24) and I were on the road for almost nine hours going from Columbus, Ohio to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The remnants of Hurricane Ida were beating down on the area, so it rained hard all day. We received tornado watch/warnings and flash flood watches too. We decided not to stop at all, which was a bummer since I had hoped to pay our respects at the Flight 93 National Memorial, especially since it’s just a few days until the 20th anniversary of 9/11.
Today was also a no-burger day for us. Since we are spending the night in Philadelphia, we decided to sample the Philly cheesesteak sandwiches instead. We decided not to brave the bad weather, so we had cheesesteaks delivered from three restaurants to our hotel instead. We chose Pat’s King of Steaks (the original), Geno’s Steaks (across the street from Pat’s and almost as well known), and Jim’s South Street (a favorite among locals). We knew these would be less tasty after waiting to be delivered vs. eating there, but it was a good way to try more of them easily (and stay out of the bad weather.
From each restaurant we ordered cheesesteaks with onions, peppers, mushrooms, and whiz (Cheese Whiz – a classic choice). We also got one sandwich with provolone instead of whiz from Pat’s.
We were pretty surprised how different the three sandwiches were, especially since they apparently all get their bread from the same supplier. Pat’s was pretty disappointing. The meat was flavorless and dry, and there wasn’t much of anything in the bun – less meat, toppings, and cheese than the other restaurants. The bun was stale to boot. We couldn’t tell too much difference between the whiz and provolone versions since there was so little cheese in the sandwiches.We didn’t even finish these.
Whiz and provolone sandwiches from Pat’s. Notice how sparsely filled these are and how dry the buns are.
The sandwich from Geno’s was much better. It had more cheese and toppings, and the meat had more flavor. The bun was damp with cheese and the juices from the meat, which was delicious. This was Andrew’s favorite.
Geno’s sandwiches. Notice how much more filled the sandwich is and how much more the buns have soaked up cheese and juice vs. Pat’s.
The sandwich from Jim’s had much more meat than either of the others. The meat was also much more finely chopped vs. the others, which were more sliced. I thought their toppings were better than the other two places too, although Andrew wanted more cheese on Jim’s. I thought this was the tastiest sandwich and was my favorite.
Look how much more meat there is in the sandwich from Jim’s. The bun is also soaked with flavor…
You can see how much more chopped up the meat is on the sandwich from Jim’s (right) vs. Pat’s (left).
It turns out the topic of who has the best cheesesteak in Philadelphia is something of a hot topic, bordering on religion. Pat’s and Geno’s are the best known and have the most tourist attention. There are a lot of other restaurants that also have cheesesteaks here (like Jim’s). I didn’t realize there was so much variation. We’ll have to come back and try more. Hopefully, there won’t be a hurricane, tornadoes, and flooding next time.
Burgertrippers: Day 10 Three burgers from Chicago to Columbus 31 Aug 2021 8:14 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip.)
Today was our first three burger day as we drove from Chicago to Columbus, Ohio. The first was at Powers Hamburgers in Fort Wayne, Indiana. The first Powers was opened in 1935; we went to the only surviving location, opened in 1940. This is a little shop with counter seating. As soon as you walk into the restaurant, you’re hit with the smell of grilled onions. The burgers are small, just bigger than a slider but smaller than a McDonald’s cheeseburger. The thin smashburger patties are covered in thinly sliced, grilled onions; these sit on a steamed locally made bun. We had doubles with cheese.
These were really good. Well-balanced and tasty; the onions were a major part of the texture but were not overwhelming. The buns were soft. It’s what White Castle should be, frankly. The place was loaded with regulars; the older guy sitting next to me had been coming since he was a kid and clearly had a lot of fond memories when the restaurant used to be a 24 hour operation, coming in on the last stop on the way home after a night out. Enjoyable burger and stop.
We drove into Ohio and stopped in Lima to visit Kewpee Hamburgers, the second oldest burger chain in the country, after White Castle – founded in 1928. We visited the original downtown location. The burger had a loosely formed patty and topped with American cheese and the standard fixings. We opted out of fries here since we had just had the Powers Burgers not too long ago. This was a really good, solid burger. I thought the bun was especially tasty. We probably should have ordered doubles to improve the meat-to-everything-else ratio. This was probably the closest to an In-And-Out burger that we’ve had on this trip so far.
We headed to Dayton, Ohio next to visit the National Museum of the US Air Force. This is the world’s largest military aviation museum. Unfortunately, in my planning I forgot that we’d lose an hour when we crossed into the Eastern time zone; we also got a late start out of Chicago. This meant we only had an hour to see the massive museum. Still, I was excited to see planes I’ve never seen before, like a Twin Mustang and an F-22 Raptor. They also had historically significant aircraft like Bockscar, the B-29 that dropped the second atomic bomb, on Nagasaki Japan. I really want to come back here. The whole area has a lot of flight-related museums and history since the Wright Brothers were from this area.
We finished the day up at Swensens Drive-In in Columbus, OH. This is a regional/Ohio-only drive-in burger chain founded in 1934. They are famous for their Galley Burger – a double cheeseburger with two special sauces. Naturally, we got that, one “with everything” – mustard, dill pickles, and raw onions, and one without. We also ordered their potato puffs – shredded fried potatoes. We wanted to try their potato teezers – potato/cheese/jalopeno combo but they were having supply chain problems and didn’t have them. We tried the substitute – fried mac and cheese balls. We also had their shakes. Frankly, I was disappointed. The burgers were reasonably well constructed and seasoned, but one of the special sauces tasted like a too-sweet barbecue sauce that overwhelmed everything. It was fine but not special. The potato puffs were just tater tots; I felt deceived. The mac and cheese balls were good but not special as were the shakes. Maybe we were just burgered out after our third round for the day, but we were unexcited about this dinner.
Burgertrippers: Day 9 Iowa and Chicago 30 Aug 2021 6:38 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip.)
After our detour to Riverside, Iowa to see the Future Birthplace of Captain James T. Kirk, we stopped in Davenport, Iowa to visit a Maid-Rite restaurant. They are known for their loose meat sandwich. This is basically a burger where the beef is seasoned and cooked loose like taco meat rather than being formed into a patty. The chain has been around since 1926. Aside from the loose meat, the sandwich is set up like a burger with the same condiments, bun, etc. We had one with cheese and one without. It tasted a like a decent burger. The meat was well-seasoned and the bun-to-meat ratio was fine. The one with cheese was better since the cheese added some creaminess and mouthfeel that the other one lacked; the loose meat was all cooked to well-done. Not surprisingly, the sandwich was kind of a mess to eat too. We’re glad we tried this, but it’s not something I’d drive a long way for again.
We then drove on to Chicago and went to Au Cheval with my cousin Eric, his wife Melody, her sister Alexa, and Yuri, a friend of Eric’s who was staying with them. Au Cheval has regularly been named the best burger in America, so it was a must-visit on our trip. We had their single cheeseburgers (which are really doubles), one plain and one with bacon and egg. They were gorgeous – really lovely to look at (and post on Instagram). Easily the best looking burgers we’ve had on the trip so far.
These were smashburgers on a toasted brioche bun. The meat was well-seasoned and well cooked, still tender. It was very good, but honestly, I’m not sure how it could have lived up to the “best burger in the country” hype. Andrew is convinced that brioche is the wrong type of bread for a burger since it disappears into nothingness; I’m starting to agree with him. The bite wasn’t as unctuous as the Jucy Lucy we had in Minneapolis; it wasn’t even as straight-forward tasty as the Double Tavern Burger at Loretta’s Northwesterner in Seattle. Andrew didn’t even finish his burger.
By contrast, he wanted to order another Jucy Lucy after he ate the first one (he would have but it takes a while to get one and we were with friends) and at Loretta’s we actually did get another burger. I really enjoyed it, but I actually liked some of their other menu items better. The foie gras with scrambled eggs and toast was decadent. The omelette was prepared perfectly – light, fluffy, and savory. And the fried bologna sandwich was like bologna sandwiches from my childhood memories kicked up 10000%.
The evening was super enjoyable. Good food and good drinks with family made for a super night.
Burgertrippers: Day 9 The Voyage Home Museum 30 Aug 2021 6:34 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip.)
This is a special non-burger post. Andrew (24) and I left the Twin Cities and headed down to Riverside, Iowa. They are the self-purported “future birthplace of Captain James T. Kirk” (from the Star Trek series). We actually re-routed our trip especially to come to Riverside since we’re both Star Trek fans (especially Andrew – observant blog readers will have seen the Star Wars comm badge he wears on his jacket – all of them.)
Andrew in front of the museum, standing by the USS Riverside parade float. 
In the original Star Trek series, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry stated the Kirk was from Iowa but didn’t say where. Someone in Riverside decided that Kirk was born in Riverside and put up a little museum called the Voyage Home Museum. In 1985 the city petitioned Roddenberry and Paramount Pictures for permission to adopt Kirk as their “future son”, which was approved, so it became Star Trek canon that Kirk is from Riverside.
We were super disappointed when we pulled up to the museum to find it was closed. A sign on the door said they were closed due to lack of staff, but they did have a list of numbers to call to see if they could come let you in. The second number I tried resulted in a nice lady walking over (on her birthday no less!) to open the museum up. It’s a small museum stuffed full of Star Trek memorabilia ranging from actual props like Data’s desk from the Enterprise-D to self-built sets like the Enterprise bridge and transporter room. Super fun. They also have the “USS Riverside” (which looks a lot like the Enterprise) float for their annual TrekFest event and a bronze statue of Kirk across the street in a park.
Andrew in in a transporter bay. The buttons next to Kirk trigger red alert and other sounds.
The original prop for Data’s desk in his quarters from Star Trek: The Next Generation.
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The whole town is in on this. Down the street there’s a stone plaque noting the birthplace. The street lights have Star Trek pennants flying from them. There was a bar called Murphy’s Bar and Grill that claimed to be the future Shipyard Bar (where the fight scene in the new Star Trek movie takes place). They also have a plaque marking “Captain James T. Kirk conceived at this point on June 22, 2227”; it used to be under the pool table until a remodel, when they moved it to a wall. Unfortunately, the bar closed this summer due to COVID business impacts. I hope someone buys the bar and reopens it, or Kirk may never be conceived…
Anyway, it was a fun side trip on our journey.
Burgertrippers: Days 7-8 The Twin Cities 29 Aug 2021 7:55 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip.)
Andrew (24) and I arrived in Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota (aka “The Twin Cities”) yesterday. We’re spending two nights here as a bit of a rest plus it’s where I grew up, so I thought I’d torture Andrew taking him to all the random places I spent time as a kid. It’s also the first real burger destination on our trip.
Our first stop was White Castle, the oldest fast food burger chain in the country, founded in 1921. This is a mostly Midwestern chain, so Andrew has never had one (we have stood outside the one in Las Vegas, but opted not to try it then because of the huge line of drunken gamblers). I had built them up to mythical status in my mind. White Castle burgers are unique; they are a small/slider-sized burgers with a super thin, square patty, topped with grilled onions and cheese optionally. The patty is steamed on top of a bed of onions; it has holes so they don’t have to flip the patty over. Each burger is served in a little cardboard holder. This was a disappointment to me; it was not nearly as good as I remembered – bland, too much bun (a little salt or ketchup would have helped though). Andrew actually liked it and came to the same realization that many, many others have: that a bag of these would be good after a night of drinking. The fries were ok, nothing special.
The White Castle burger
We then went back to Woodbury, my home town, and saw my old house, elementary school, junior high, high school, each of my old friends’ houses, my places of employment, the hospital I volunteered in, and the shops I used to go to. Of course, each location included extensive stories and historical context. He was polite and did a good job pretending to listen/care.
For dinner, we went to Casper & Runyon’s Nook, a neighborhood burger and beer restaurant open in since 1938. I tried their Juicy Nookie burger (their take on a Jucy Lucy – see below for more on that), and Andrew had their Triple B (Bourbon Bacon Burger). The Juicy Nookie had the cheese in the meat. The waiter and the menu warn patrons to let the burger cool a bit since the molten cheese will squirt out otherwise. This was a thick patty (really a double) with grilled onions on a toasted bun. It was very tasty – well grilled, well seasoned. Andrew’s Triple B was pretty good, but the bourbon barbecue sauce was too sweet. He didn’t actually finish his burger. We also had walleye fingers (deep fried nuggets of walleye pike: a local freshwater fish and one of my very favorite fish to eat) and “Nook Curds” – honey glazed deep fried cheese curds with bacon – decadent and delicious. The fries were once-fried cut potatoes – very good (but I [refer crunchier fries).
The Juicy Nookie
On Day 8, we needed a break from eggs and burgers, so we had dim sum at Mandarin Kitchen. It was very, very good – nice variety of dishes with good quality. It was better than most in Seattle. We then walked around the Mill District in Minneapolis. This is an area around St. Anthony Falls on the Mississippi River (the only major waterfall on the Mississippi) that used to have something like thirty flour mills and was the largest producer of flour in the world. It’s now been revitalized with museums, riverside parks, the Guthrie Theater, and walk ways. Andrew found a public piano (pretty broken actually) and gave an impromptu concert. I really like this area.The only bummer (to me at least) is that the Mill City Museum is still closed due to COVID. Fortunately, there are a lot of signs on the walkways nearby, so I learned a fair bit about the history of the area anyway. Andrew was politely patient, although he began mocking me a bit by pointing out signs I missed. I had originally planned to go to the Minnesota State Fair, which I loved as a kid, with special food memories – Pronto Pup corndogs (which I just learned are actually from Oregon), mini donuts, and the best strawberry ice cream ever at the Dairy Building. But, the prospect of being in a huge crowd of mostly maskless people on top of our existing travel risks wasn’t appealing. Oh well.
Andrew in the Mill District, in front of the old Gold Medal Flour mill 
The main attraction of this stay in the Twin Cities was the Jucy Lucy burger at Matt’s Bar. This burger is famous enough to have its own Wikipedia entry and has been in the media a lot. President Obama even stopped by and had one. The Jucy Lucy has the cheese stuffed into the burger patty; the cheese is basically stuffed between two single patties. The edges of the patties are sealed to keep the cheese inside. The burger is simple otherwise, with just pickle chips and finely chopped and grilled onions on an untoasted bun. No sauces or condiments. It was perfect. Maybe the best burger of my life. The meat was good quality, well-seasoned, and well cooked. The cheese mixed with the burger juices and kept the burger moist. The finely cut grilled onion were a great complement; they didn’t overwhelm a bite like the bigger slices at the Nook. The bun-to-meat ratio was spot on. Every bite was absolutely delicious. An order of fries is huge, even for two people. They were pretty standard restaurant fries, but of course we ate them all. This dinner was especially special because we enjoyed with with my high school friend Stephanie and her son Soren. Good food is always better with good friends.
The Jucy Lucy – pretty straightforward and not fancied up for Instagram. Note the finely chopped onions.
The cheese and juices started oozing out after my first cautious nibbles.
Matt’s is an unassuming neighborhood joint. The prices are still super reasonable ($8.75 for the Jucy Lucy) despite their fame.
Burgertrippers: Day 6 Driving across South Dakota 26 Aug 2021 11:40 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip)
Andrew (24) and I kicked off our day at Wall Drug, the classic South Dakotan tourist trap destination. They were a little drugstore in the 1930s who started to advertise free ice water to drivers going to Mount Rushmore; the business took off from there. It’s even bigger and kitschier than I remember; this was Andrew’s first time. He enjoyed it though, and I got my free glass of ice water and “Where the heck is Wall Drug” bumper sticker. I also rode the fearsome jackelope…
Andrew with free water
Me taming the jackelope
After we drank our fill of free ice water, we went to Badlands National Park (not the best naming…) This is a dramatic landscape of grasslands cut with deep, colored ravines and pinnacles. Andrew had never heard of the park but was super impressed.
Andrew surveying the Badlands
Just as we came out of the Badlands, we stopped at the Minuteman Missile National Historic Site. This national site is located on what used to be a nuclear missile base housing ten Minuteman ICBM silos (since deactivated as part of the START II arms control treaty.) The little museum and theatre is solid. You can visit an old control room and a silo (both a few miles away), but apparently unless you make an appointment, there’s nothing really to see from the outside. We didn’t go see those.
Mural from the Minuteman control room
The next stop was the Corn Palace in Mitchell, South Dakota. I have strong memories of seeing the Corn Palace as a kid, so I figured it was worth a few minutes to swing by and see it again. They change the murals made of different colored corn each year, so it looked different (but kind of the same) than before. There was a fair on the streets around the Corn Palace, with games and food vendors. I took the opportunity to try chislic. This is dish of deep-fried cubes of red meat, classically mutton but often beef or game meats, eaten with a toothpick and served with saltine crackers. It’s a South Dakotan delicacy, even being declared the state’s “official nosh”. Deep-fried meat sounded right up my alley, but the version I had was only OK.
Andrew and me in front of the Corn Palace
My first taste of (beef) chislic
We finally got to Sioux Falls for the night. I don’t recall having spent any time in Sioux Falls before (I think my dad just drove past every time.) The falls area is very nice as is the revitalized downtown area. We also had our first regional burger chain of the trip – Culver’s. This is a mostly Midwestern chain (although they’re in 25 states now) famous for their Butterburger and custard ice cream. We figured anything named “Butterburger” must be good, so we gave it a try. The Butterburger is so named because they butter and toast the buns. It’s a smash burger using never-frozen beef. The patties are pretty thin, so the double was much better than the single, which was overwhelmed by the condiments (which you specify – we had ketchup, mustard, and mayo). The outside the patties was pleasantly crunchy and well-cooked, and the buttered and toasted bun was good. The cheese was not melted however. The crinkle fries were fine but nothing special. I liked the custard ice cream (especially the chocolate, which tasted like the old Frosty Malts at baseball games – definitely a nostalgic memory for me.) Their house-brand root beer was bland and boring. Overall, it was a great fast-food burger. I’d take it over any of the big burger chains, but In-and-Out beats Culver’s in my mind (although I’d like to try them side-by-side some day.)
Culvers Double Cheese Butter Burger and fries. Note the crispy patty edges and unmelted cheese.
Burgertrippers: Day 5 Devils Tower, Crazy Horse, and Mount Rushmore 26 Aug 2021 9:42 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip)
After a semi-rough night of sleep in the tipi due to the high winds, we got up at 5:45am to watch the sunrise and get to Devils Tower before the crowds.
We got to the park and then did the 1.3 mile hike around the base. It was cool to see the tower up close and see how it different it was on each side. Up close, it’s really apparent that the tower is made up to columns of rock, some of which have calved away from the tower forming the rubble piles surrounding the tower, but apparently none has fallen in recorded history. Even though we were there early (before even the visitor center had opened), there were already climbers on the tower. The first climbers to summit the tower were two local farmers who did it in the 1890s as a publicity stunt, using a stake ladder. Wild.
After our early morning hike, we semi-randomly picked a place for breakfast in Sundance, Wyoming. This is the town which gave the Sundance Kid his name but is not where the movie festival is. The Bearlodge Bakery turned out to be a really excellent restaurant; we both had an amazing breakfast burrito covered in green chile sauce. Sadly, today was their last breakfast service. The owner was closing the restaurant and trying to find a buyer. She can’t get enough long-term employees to sustain the business. Really sad.
We then headed up to see the Crazy Horse Memorial and Mount Rushmore – two massive sculptures cut into the mountains. The Crazy Horse sculpture is still a work in progress. The last time I saw it (probably in the early 1980s) it was still being roughed out, with just a flat spot for the top of the arm and a hole under it. Now the face is complete and more of the sculpture is roughed out. You can see from this picture what the final sculpture is planned to look like and where the mountain is today.
The project was started in 1949 but hasn’t taken any money from the US government. It’s progressing very slowly. I have to admire their tenacity though.
Nearby, the Mount Rushmore facility has improved a lot since I saw it last in 1990, with much more parking and a bigger/nicer visitor center. The museum provided more information how they actually did the work and how the artist had to keep redesigning the sculpture as he found weak rock (including having to destroy much of the original Thomas Jefferson sculpture). I also learned the government’s funding priorities due to World War II and the death of the artist resulted in not completing the original plan of showing the Presidents’ torsos. Regardless of what I might think about carving up mountains, I am impressed by the scale, audacity, and invention it took to create these.
We spent the night in Rapid City, South Dakota. Since we didn’t have any planned burgers in Rapid City, a little internet sleuthing resulted in us going to Sickies Garage Burgers & Brews for dinner. The server mentioned they are famous for having a lot of different kinds of burgers, which they certainly do. Andrew had their eponymous Sickies Burger – a 1/3 pound burger with peppered bacon, fried egg, pulled pork, BBQ sauce, American cheese, an onion ring, and Frank’s Hot Sauce. I had a classic cheeseburger but made with an American Kobe beef patty. Both were excellent – good ingredients prepared with good execution. The meat tasted good, with a nice sear. The fries and tater tots we had were the standard frozen stuff, but they were fine. Sickies offers different seasonings for them like Cajun spice, so that’s nice. Super solid meal.
Andrew’s Sickie Burger
Burgertrippers: Day 4 Cody to Devils Tower 25 Aug 2021 8:15 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip)
After a really good breakfast at our now-beloved Shoshone Lodge, Andrew (24) and I headed into Cody, Wyoming to visit the Buffalo Bill Center of the West museum. This complex is really five museums in one – the Buffalo Bill Museum, Plains Indian Museum, Cody Firearms Museum, Draper Natural History Museum, and Whitney Western Art Museum. We went through the Buffalo Bill, Plains Indian, and Cody Firearms museums. All of them were excellent – well curated with outstanding artifacts. I thought they handled potentially sensitive topics in a balanced ways. I didn’t know much about Buffalo Bill Cody going in, so it was super interesting and educational; he reinvented himself so many times and was pretty remarkable. The Cody Firearms museum was particularly impressive. It’s the largest publicly viewable firearms collection in the world. They have so many out that they have put many of them in drawers that visitors can pull out. I wish we had time to linger in the museums we visited and to see the others. I’d definitely come back if I’m in the area.
We then visited the Heart Mountain Interpretive Center, which is about 15 minutes from Cody. This museum is on the site of the Heart Mountain “relocation center” where 14000 Japanese-Americans were incarcerated during World War II without due process. Half were under the age of 18 and two-thirds were American citizens. It became the third largest city in Wyoming and had a bigger population that Cody does today.
This is a subject I know a little about, especially since the first Japanese-Americans were shipped off to the camps from a dock about a mile from my house on Bainbridge Island, Washington. I still learned a lot; I was especially interested in the post-war phase, which most of the other accounts I’ve read don’t cover. There was a shortage of housing post-war for everyone, but it was especially tough for the Japanese-Americans coming back. They had lost everything, had little or no money, and often returned to racism and hostility. Even though almost all of the building from the camp are now gone, standing on the site was pretty emotional for me and brought the immense scale of the camp to life. The museum had a very timely special exhibit about how disease has been racialized throughout American history up to and including the current COVID pandemic. The whole museum made it super clear to me how easy it is for Americans to turn on each other during times of fear and hatred.
An exhibit showing how bare the incarceration camp barracks were when the Japanese-Americans first arrived.
We then drove across Wyoming to reach our accommodations for the evening near Devils Tower, an AirBnB called Devils Tower Tipi Camping or Sunshine Crappy Fish. This was a super unique night for us, sleeping in a tipi with no running water or power. The camp is a few miles from Devils Tower with a clear view of the tower. One of the other guests gave us a great tip to walk over to a bluff nearby on the property to get a really incredible view of the tower, overlooking a ravine. That night we were also able to really see the stars and the Milky Way since there was so much less light pollution out here than most places we travel. We were also treated to a far-off lightning storm and thunder, which was pretty cool.
The tipi itself was warm and cozy. We slept on pads on the ground with blankets. The tipi came equipped with a propane stove, propane lamp, three gallons of water, mugs and instant coffee, and two solar lanterns. The only restroom on the site is a super clean Porta-Potty.The only real bummer was that it was a very windy night (20 MPH+), so the tipi fabric was noisy like any tent would be.
There are no dining options on-site and we arrived too late to really go to the any of the restaurants nearby. We were prepared and had brought a picnic lunch with us. No burgers for us tonight.
It was a fun place to stay and a great jumping off point to visit Devils Tower in the morning.
Andrew standing by our tipi
Our sleeping arrangements inside the tipi
Our “kitchen” inside the tipi
The amazing sunset view of Devils Tower from the property.
Burgertrippers: Day 3 Yellowstone National Park 24 Aug 2021 8:13 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip)
We spent our third day of the trip in Yellowstone National Park. This was Andrew’s (24) first time at Yellowstone, and my first time in in maybe 40 years. We entered through the north entrance at 6:45am to beat the crowds. We hit the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, Grand Prismatic Spring, and the Old Faithful area plus a few other stops when we saw something cool. Of course, the park is stunning. I didn’t remember how diverse and other-worldly the different parts of the park are – gorgeous waterfalls and canyons, alien-like steam wafting out randomly, colorful geothermal pools, and of course, wildlife like buffalo wandering around. We mostly had the park to ourselves early on, but the traffic picked up over the course of the day. We had to wait for parking at Grand Prismatic and circle a bit for parking at Old Faithful, but we managed to avoid any big traffic jams (or buffalo jams!) At Old Faithful, we hiked up to Observatory Point for a different view of the geyser than usual.
Yellowstone Falls
Old Faithful from Observation Point
Andrew blowing off steam…
We planned to stay in a lodge just outside the east entrance, but there was some mix-up with our reservations. Fortunately, they helped us find a room at the nearby Shoshone Lodge, which turned out to be a great place (and probably an upgrade). Dinner at the lodge was really good. Andrew’s “Bear Bite Burger” was a western-style burger topped with cheddar cheese, onion rings, and a spicy house-made huckleberry barbecue sauce. (The photo I took of the burger was terrible, and Andrew was too impatient to dig in for me to get a better one.) I had fried chicken for a change of pace. Both were excellent. Andrew described them as made with love. The meat was really good quality and tasted good, and the barbecue sauce was exceptional – spicy, sweet, tangy all in one.
We hung out around a campfire with some of the other guests for quite a while; some of the staff joined us later. It turns out, most of them are summer staff who found the job (and previous years’ jobs) on coolworks.com, which I had never heard of.) The other guests were interesting and from all around the country. It was a very enjoyable evening. The cabins at the lodge were basic but comfortable. The food and service are really what made it special. Andrew wants to go back.
Shoshone Lodge cabins (ours was the first)
Burgertrippers: Day 2 Spokane to Gardiner, MT 23 Aug 2021 8:08 PM (3 years ago)
(Read the intro post for background on this trip)
Andrew (24) got an early start today since we had about seven hours of driving today plus stops. We left Spokane and drove through Coere d’Alene, Idaho; it’s really pretty here with the mountains and big lake. We didn’t have time to stop, but I think it would be nice to come back.
We had hoped to try the Nutburger at Matt’s Place in Butte, Montana; this was one of the historical burgers we had really wanted to try. They cooked this burger on their original 1930s cast iron cooktop and topped it with chopped peanuts and Miracle Whip, which sounds odd but apparently worked. They had even won a James Beard award. Unfortunately, they’ve closed permanently. It looks like they had been for sale for a while including through June 2020; my guess is that no one wanted to buy a restaurant during the pandemic. Sad.
So, we kept driving through to Bozeman, Montana. My dad did his masters degrees at Montana State University there; it was also born there although I have no recollection since we moved away when I was two. Still, it was pretty cool to visit campus and walk around a little. It was crowded with students returning to school, so we didn’t want to brave the lines to buy a t-shirt. I’ll have to get one online.
We finished up in Gardiner, Montana. This is at the north entrance to Yellowstone Park, where we will spend the day tomorrow. After walking around a bit and checking out the Roosevelt Arch marking the entrance to Yellowstone. (Interesting connection to Seattle – the arch was initially proposed by Hiram Chittenden who also was instrumental in the design of the locks in Ballard that are named for him.)
After that we had dinner at the Iron Horse Bar & Grille. In line with our burger theme, Andrew and I tried the elk burger and the bison burger. Meh. The patties were thin but well cooked, with a little char on the outside for flavor. Both were dry and mostly similar to beef burgers, although the elk burger had a little more distinctive and gamey flavor. They listed brioche buns on the menu, but the ones that came out were more like ciabatta. The fries were commercially produced battered fries (the same ones as in one of the restaurants Andrew worked in), but I like them since they’re crispy on the outside and soft inside. Overall, the meal was ok but nothing memorable. The staff was friendly, and the outdoor deck overlooking the Yellowstone River and hills was nice (even though the air quality index was ~150, which is pretty bad and noticeable, presumably due to wildfire smoke.
Andrew with half of an elk burger and half of a bison burger at Iron Horse Bar & Grille
We hope to hit Yellowstone early tomorrow to get ahead of the crowds, so it’s an early night for us!
Burgertrippers: Day 1 Seattle to Spokane 22 Aug 2021 8:19 PM (3 years ago)
Andrew (24) and I started out today from Bainbridge Island this morning in our rental Mitsubishi Outlander on our burger-hunting drive to New York. We dipped our hands in the Pacific Ocean (OK, Puget Sound, but it’s part of the Pacific Ocean) before we headed out. If we remember, we’ll do the same in the Atlantic when we finish our transcontinental drive. We then picked up our traditional McDonald's “adventure meal” breakfast. (When the kids were little, whenever we’d go on an “adventure” – a day trip to hike or go to a beach or ride the ferries or something) we’d get McDonald’s hashbrowns on the way. It became a bit of a family tradition. After taking the ferry to Seattle, we started driving east.
Our first stop was Cave B Winery in Quincy, Washington, about 2.5 hours east of Seattle. This was Andrew’s first wine tasting and my first trip to Cave B. It was a really nice place, with an outdoor patio overlooking the Columbia River Gorge. They have accommodations there, and it’s right next door to The Gorge Amphitheatre – an awesome outdoor concert venue. Andrew especially liked their Viogner. I liked their Cabernet Sauvignon. After the tasting, we drove a few miles into George, WA (really, that’s the name of the town) and had super tacos at Mi Lindo Guanojuato. This is a super friendly, pretty big but spartan Mexican restaurant and bar with amazing tortillas. Andrew and the owner had a pretty long conversation in Spanish, which seemed to impress and surprise the owner. (Andrew studied Spanish in high school but really became pretty fluent working in kitchens.)
The rest of our drive to Spokane was pretty straight-forward although the air was a little smoky from wildfires. Andrew and I haven’t traveled much in eastern Washington and were impressed with the landscape. We were equally impressed by Spokane, which I haven’t been to as an adult. I think Andrew as there as a kid with Michelle, but he doesn’t remember. It’s a cute, clean city with a nice park/riverside area by the Spokane River. Riverside Park was originally the site of Expo ‘74, a world’s fair that somehow Spokane managed to land. The centerpiece the river and park are the falls and the former Expo pavilion.
We didn’t have a historical or region burger to sample in Spokane (especially since the milk bottle shaped Mary Lou’s Milk Bottle restaurant was closed on Sundays). We decided on Incrediburger and Eggs (how could we pass up a place with a name like that?!) We ordered their PB&J burger, a classic burger (both with bacon, cheese, and grilled onions), beef fat fries, and onion rings. Both burgers were smallish, bigger than a slider but smaller than you might expect (which was fine since we were still pretty full from lunch).
The PB&J burger has peanut butter sauce, jalapeno jelly, cilantro, Thai aioli, and pickled peppers. I’ve always been a fan of peanut butter on burgers – it adds a nice richness. The jalapeno jelly cut the richness but wasn’t too sweet. The patty was nothing special – no real browning or seasoning. It was fine. The classic burger was straightforward and fine. I liked the brioche buns, but Andrew pointed out that these airy buns collapsed pretty fast, resulting in the wrong meat/bun ratio.
They make all their own condiments there, which was really a highlight. We thought these burgers showed how far you get making a tasty burger with just great toppings and condiments since the meat was only ok – basically just providing texture and warmth. The beef fat fries were the highlight. Fries cooked in animal fat are just way better than those cooked in vegetable oil. The onion rings were the big disappointment of the night. They were overcooked and bland with a heavy batter. They just tasted like burned batter. (Sorry for the bad photo – need to up my game on the food photography.)
They did have wall art that seemed appropriate to start our trip. It was a good first day.
Burgertrippers: Seattle baseline 22 Aug 2021 7:21 PM (3 years ago)
Andrew (24) has been working fulltime in restaurant kitchens for the past five years and has decided that he wants to really make this his profession, so he’s headed to the Culinary Institute of America in Hyde Park, NY to get a degree in Culinary Science. He and I decided to take two weeks to drive across the country from Seattle to get there. On the way we’ll visit national parks, interesting little museums, and two cities I grew up in. But, the really interesting focus of our trip will be finding historically and regionally important hamburgers. Andrew researched the trip using the book Hamburger America plus some online work.
To set up for the trip, we decided to set a baseline using the best burger in Seattle, arguably Loretta’s Northwesterner. This is a tavern near Boeing Field, south of Seattle. We had both the double Tavern Burger (their specialty) and their Deluxe burger as well as fries.
The double Tavern Burger was really fantastic, the stuff of recurring dreams since we visited. It’s a straightforward smash burger with crispy, well-browned patties. The bun-to-meat ratio is perfect and there were minimal toppings – just American cheese, pickles, chopped onions, and special sauce. It was just a super well executed burger (similar the way that In-And-Out is a just a good, well executed burger.)
Surprisingly, the Deluxe burger was nothing special, despite having lettuce, tomato, and red onion. The patty was a thicker burger (their menu calls it “restaurant-style”) vs. a smash burger; it was fine but not as flavorful. I suspect the meat was different (maybe frozen?)
The fries were very good too – fresh cut potatoes, well browned but not crunchy.
Overall, we learned that sharing burgers to try a few different ones is a good idea since the tastiness of the burgers can vary across the menu. We decided we would ask each place we go which burgers they’re famous for and try those. Loretta’s set a very high bar for our trip. I’ll definitely go back there.
